Thanks to James and Anna for having me on the Para Podcast! The average way Christians talk about the cross is not one that always sounds like good news. God was angry and wanted to kill someone, so he took his anger out on his sinless son and now he’s happy and can accept the rest of us? That doesn’t sound just or loving. That sounds like child abuse.

On this episode, I had a great time talking about some of the other theological perspectives of the cross and tried to explain some of the ways we get confused when we try to explain the concept of substitutionary atonement.

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